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Regardless of your criteria who do you think are the 5 strongest men in the world?[/b]

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Bill Kazmaier Strongest ever
Mariusz Pudzianowski Strongman champ
Magnus ver Magnusson One of the greatest Strongmen
Hossein Rezazadeh Olympic Gold Medalist

Two-way tie
Mike Miller - World squat record
Scot Mendelson - Raw and shirt bench press record

Those are my biased favorites. D

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Pyrros Dimas, Razazadeh

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Bill Kazmaier
Mariusz Pudzianowski
Gene Rychalk Jr
Mike Miller
Andy Bolton

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Pre-organized strength sports:
Louis Cyr
Herman Goerner
Doug Hepburn
Mac Batchelor
Paul Anderson

Modern era:
Jon Cole
John Kuc
Don Reinhoudt
Bill Kazmaier
O.D. Wilson

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Mariusz Pudzianowsky seems a little over rated to me.

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BNK wrote:
Mariusz Pudzianowsky seems a little over rated to me.

A multiple-time winner of the WSM Competition? Seriously?

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Strength or strength endurance?

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I put both in my list do the same.

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Rezza Hossein
Andy Bolton and Bennie ?
lighter weights Pyros Dimas.

Marius

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Modern era:
Jon Cole
John Kuc
Don Reinhoudt
Bill Kazmaier
O.D. Wilson

Good grief, are you really SERIOUS?

Kaz has blown ALL of these guys quite AWAY! He's done the same with the old timers as well, BTW.

Now, I grant you that his bench, deadlift and squat poundages were not what some of these stalwarts measured up to. But everyone knows that PL is NOT the true measure of overall strength. What is? Well, meeting challenges head on is a start, and Kaz pretty much met them in all feats of strength, with the exception of PL.

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Dr. Squat wrote:
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Modern era:
Jon Cole
John Kuc
Don Reinhoudt
Bill Kazmaier
O.D. Wilson

Good grief, are you really SERIOUS?

Kaz has blown ALL of these guys quite AWAY! He's done the same with the old timers as well, BTW.

Now, I grant you that his bench, deadlift and squat poundages were not what some of these stalwarts measured up to. But everyone knows that PL is NOT the true measure of overall strength. What is? Well, meeting challenges head on is a start, and Kaz pretty much met them in all feats of strength, with the exception of PL.

Yep, serious as can be.
I did include Kaz because he was/is an amazingly strong and aggressive athlete and should be at the top of anyone's list.
Kuc, Cole & Don made the list because:
They all squatted 900 or more and deadlifted in the high 800's
and benched 600 without gear. (okay, maybe Jon only hit 580 or 590, let's not split hairs)
Jon was also an outstanding Olympic weightlifter and track athlete.
Don won WSM in addition to four consecutive Superheavyweight IPF World titles.
John was undefeated in what is arguably the most competetive division in powerlifting and set numerous World Records.
O.D. was kept from winning WSM multiple times due to the inclusion of endurance events.
I don't think any of the competitors at that time could have held a candle to his "one rep" strength.
I am willing to listen to other opinions, tell me who you believe is "stronger" that those I've listed.

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Kaz
Ed Coan
Jon Paul Sigmarsson
Kaz
Ed Coan

....I think that's five??

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kirk karwoski, ed coan, mark henry, scott weech jr, andy bolton, my coach.

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kmstrength wrote:
kirk karwoski, ed coan, mark henry, scott weech jr, andy bolton, my coach.

Is this a joke?

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People are entitled to their opinions Austinzilla. Do you even know who half those people are?

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Graham wrote:
People are entitled to their opinions Austinzilla. Do you even know who half those people are?

Yes I do and I'm also confident that if he has to refer to this guy as "my coach" for his list of the strongest men, he probably isn't one of them.

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Austinzilla wrote:
Graham wrote:
People are entitled to their opinions Austinzilla. Do you even know who half those people are?

Yes I do and I'm also confident that if he has to refer to this guy as "my coach" for his list of the strongest men, he probably isn't one of them.

my coach was my personal pick, also is american master record holder, in the usapl, moses battles. i pick him because i dont know any of those people, you dont like my picks, who cares.

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Currently 5 strongest in stationary strength imo and in no particluar order
Savickas, Garry Frank, Andy Bolton, Siders, Donnie Thompson

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One guy that hasn't been named but has unearthly shoulder and upperbody pressing strength is Glen Ross. He pressed the Apollon Wheel or whatever it's called, 366 lbs from a static position using only the shoulder and triceps, no leg drive, @ the Arnold classic.

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Graham wrote:
One guy that hasn't been named but has unearthly shoulder and upperbody pressing strength is Glen Ross. He pressed the Apollon Wheel or whatever it's called, 366 lbs from a static position using only the shoulder and triceps, no leg drive, @ the Arnold classic.

As I recalled his deadlift was sick - almost a 1000lbs with the hummer wheels, but he struggled with the apollon press getting 3 reps (still amazing). He really shot his load on the clean. The press with his enormous weight, well in excess of 400lbs, proved far easier. Siders and Virastuk got 5 reps, and Zavickas a record 6 if memory serves me. It was the first time I saw Siders and he blew me away with his incredible strength. Sven Karlson, whom I hadn't seen in a couple of years since WSM, showed that at near 40 he has a lot left. He further impressed me in that he was giving up a lot of weight to many of his fellow competitors.

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Mariusz isn't even in the top 5 of current strongman competitors. If you figure in all of the IFSA guys, the top 4 spots go to them, with only 1 going to a WSM competitor (Phil Phister). Sure he's won 3 of them, but two of those titles were after the TWI/IFSA split. While Mariusz is an amazing specimen, he is being surpassed regularly.

Current

As we speak, Zydrunas Savickas is currently hands-down the "all around" strongest person on earth. No one else even comes close.

As for oly lifting, Rezazedeh has it wrapped up.

After those two, the waters get a little cloudier

Brian Siders
Brad Gillingham
Misha Koklyaev
Phil Phister

All Time

It's almost impossible to pick 5 considering that there aren't any standardized criteria upon which to judge them:

Paul Anderson
Kaz
Andre the Giant
Zydrunas Savicas
Eddie Coan

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Definitely agree with the Kaz assessment. Just simply bull strong. Incredible pressing power, both regular bench and overhead, along with top 5% squatting and deadlifting. Strongest ever? Who knows? It's a very subjective question. Savickas deserves mention in any similar discussion, as well as the other people named in the thread.

My five

Personal preference, rather than scientifically determined criteria. In no particular order:

Ed Coan
Jon Pall Sigmarsson
Fred Hatfield
Paul Anderson
Vasily Alexeyev

Those are the five who inspired me in different ways. One of the five has corresponded with me on occasion: thanks, Doc.

If Doc rates Kaz so highly then he can go in instead of JPS, but I loved the showmanship and the cries of 'VIKING' on WSM.

Nick

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Tom Acker wrote:
Pre-organized strength sports:
Louis Cyr
Herman Goerner
Doug Hepburn
Mac Batchelor
Paul Anderson

Modern era:
Jon Cole
John Kuc
Don Reinhoudt
Bill Kazmaier
O.D. Wilson

I would add Angus MacGaskill (sp?) to the old-time list, and Andre (the Giant) Rousimoff to the modern list. These two were very strong due to their sheer giantism combined with hard physical labor and athleticism.

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I would add Angus MacGaskill (sp?) to the old-time list, and Andre (the Giant) Rousimoff to the modern list. These two were very strong due to their sheer giantism combined with hard physical labor and athleticism.

Man, you gotta have a copy of "The Super Athletes" (one of my favorite books) to know Angus MacGaskill.

Andre must have been enormously powerful, but I never heard of any feats of strength that he performed.
Do you have any anectdotes?

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My opinion... in alphabetical order:

Paul Anderson
Jon Cole
Garry Frank
Bill Kazmaier
Don Reinhoudt

J.

I love this thread!

My vote is for Kaz.... But Doc outsquatted him!

Who was the strongest? Skill plays a part in it..... John Paul was dominated by Grizzley in the Indian tug of war...... I can't remember the exact name of the competiton. I think it was due to that while John Paul and Grizzly were close in strength, Grizzly outweighed him by 100 lbs! In that competion, sheer size had an advantage.

But in his era, when Kaz got his act right, he was dominate. He deserves his place amongst the Louis Cyrs, Paul Andersons and Joseph Youseffs of the world.

But none of them ever squatted 1014!

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Tom Acker wrote:
Andre must have been enormously powerful, but I never heard of any feats of strength that he performed.
Do you have any anectdotes?

hey tom,

i remember hearing this story awhile back ... its off the wikipedia article on andre...

Also in the documentary, Arnold Skaaland mentioned that even though he was very polite and nice, André had his limits. Arnold told the story when André was in a bar one night, four men came up to him and began harassing him about his size. At first, André attempted to avoid confrontation, but when he couldn't take it anymore, he proceeded to chase the hecklers until they locked themselves in their car. André then grabbed the car and tilted it over to its side with the four guys trapped inside. André was never arrested for the incident since local police officers had a hard time believing four inebriated men's story about an angry giant having overturned their car.

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I call shannagans on that story.

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I have heard strongman arguments that Kaz only won because he competed against bodybuilders, throwers, and other athletes that didn't lift for pure strength. I know there are some ungodly strong throwers and olympic lifters but I would think lifting for strongman would take away from their competitive sport. Thought the arguments were kinda interesting. I still think Kaz is the real deal.

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jwbruce wrote:
Tom Acker wrote:
Andre must have been enormously powerful, but I never heard of any feats of strength that he performed.
Do you have any anectdotes?

hey tom,

i remember hearing this story awhile back ... its off the wikipedia article on andre...

Also in the documentary, Arnold Skaaland mentioned that even though he was very polite and nice, André had his limits. Arnold told the story when André was in a bar one night, four men came up to him and began harassing him about his size. At first, André attempted to avoid confrontation, but when he couldn't take it anymore, he proceeded to chase the hecklers until they locked themselves in their car. André then grabbed the car and tilted it over to its side with the four guys trapped inside. André was never arrested for the incident since local police officers had a hard time believing four inebriated men's story about an angry giant having overturned their car.

I believe it. Car flipping was a main event in the WSM years and years ago. In the 80s I think.

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Another André anecdote: He sometimes got challenged by tough guys in his 2 nd home, the boozebar. He got challeneged by a 330 lbs lumberjack lj in Canada and tried to talk him out of it. The lj had other plans and attacked André. André grabbed him at the throat and rammed him vs the wall that the lj went into shock from the impact. Don`t forget that`s about André pre 1980, not the deeply crippled man barely able to support himslef while walking later on. When I see him in videos of his decline I instantly swithc them off. It`s too saddening of a sight for me to see a former king among men walking 10 classes below his former ability. He often had to get wheeled backstage since 1985....and succumbed finally to booze, that`s epic tragedy.

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I believe the carflipping anytime when he was not really weighttrained but healthy in the 1970s. I have met Kaz and André in person but the healthy André t h e n was far more scary, by a lightyear. His head looked as big as a TV screen and he had a far bigger bonestructure. I -16 years old then - saw him outside the tent in the dark and later on dreamt of getting hunted by a grunting Neanderthal cannibal behemoth :roll: Sad Laughing out loud

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Tom Acker wrote:
I would add Angus MacGaskill (sp?) to the old-time list, and Andre (the Giant) Rousimoff to the modern list. These two were very strong due to their sheer giantism combined with hard physical labor and athleticism.

Man, you gotta have a copy of "The Super Athletes" (one of my favorite books) to know Angus MacGaskill.

Andre must have been enormously powerful, but I never heard of any feats of strength that he performed.
Do you have any anectdotes?

When Andre was still living in Paris in the 70's, he used to go outside of the bar where he was drinking with friends, and turn their parked cars completely around. Granted, they were little European cars, but the deal is he turn them completely around, several at a time.

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I found these links and thought I'd share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRe8BDUfzIo&NR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvmOV8rpwMA&mode=related&search=

They link to a couple of cool videos featuring Kaz and Jon Pall

cab

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Great videos of Jon Pall. Thanks.

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Didn't Kaz still hold the Bench Press world record for a while? Tied with Mike Macdonald...? 661 ish?

May not be much compared to todays numbers but impressive nonetheless. I could be mistaken however.

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Yep, Kaz had the record and it was 661 or 300 kg. I know that he tore a pec doing a bar-bending event in strongman and this apparently ended his chances of upping the bench record.

Still Kaz...

But pound for pound, I've been thinking about what Joe Bradley... Not what he did, but what he could've done....

I trained with a great lifter named Todd Suttles. He was in the 132 to 148 lbs class. A great lifter, but Joe was better. I lifted in the 148 and 165's, and couldn't come close to these guys!

I'll have to research this, but on their best day, who was better: Inaba or Bradley, Pops? And overall, can Kaz carry their jock, pound for pound?

But Kaz was forced into retirement.... I think he would've won at least two more strongman competitions.

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Inaba had won several world championships when Bradley began lifting. But it was Bradley who was first to ever do a triple bodyweight bench press.

Well, if we're talking pound-for-pound, Bradley does indeed belong among the greats...so does Inaba.

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I did some research on Inaba for an article a while back.

First to squat 4 x bdwt. 210 @ 52 (kilos). 1974.
Seventeen IPF world Open titles, six seconds, three thirds.
Eight Masters world titles.

Highest weight to bdwt lift around 4.65 - I forget whether Squat or DL.

I researched as well as I could and learned he both squatted and DLed over 4 x bdwt in the SAME MEET forty-six times! That was at Worlds, or the Asians, or at Japan Nationals.
But that count is very unofficial, I admit.

Inaba joked to me at the World Games in 2001 - in his home town of Akita, Japan - that he could have been somebody if he could have benched better,,,,,,,,,