Dr. Squat - Dr. Fred Hatfield

I lift like that in the low fives. You can be quite rounded out in the mid and upper back with only low risk. But it creates problems with hitching if you don't pull off the ground fast enough or if your upper back isn't strong enough to "collect itself" at the top. Rounding out at the low back is still a big no no, imo. Also, all reps suck at the top. But you can often make a lift that you would not have otherwise.

The one about :35 is a bit much, I guess. That's mostly because there's no lumbar arch. If I was in his spot, unless it was a test day and he was supposed to get the double for some reason, I would have stopped after the first rep.

I don't think people should sacrifice safe form for weight. And I think kids ought to lift especially strictly until they've made it through puberty. But your spine is shaped like an S. It ain't straight--just make sure you don't bend it opposite of the way it's already bent, as with losing your lumbar arch.

Just get in the gym and keep lifting until you can lift heavy weights. Almost everyone's back will round near a max. Get out of the books and into the gym!

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Marcus is right. "Almost everyone's back will round near max." I've said the same and so have others, like Simmons.

Even Simmons' has said it.
Powerlifting USA/October 2008
The Forgotten Weapon/Simmons/Page 10

Deadlift Form
What is good from? Ask your doctor and he will tell you one thing, but remember you doctor does not know powerlifting. The safest method for an untrained person is not the bsst for a highly trained powerlifter. If you look at the greatest deadlifter of recent years, they don't appear to have a safe form.

Vince Anello, Juhn Kuc, and Brett Russell would pull with their heals close together almost stiff legged. Even many sumo pullers will round their backs to increase leavearge. Jim Cash would push his knees inward while his feet were turned outward to prolong leg drive. Fred Hatfiled, who was know for his squatting, pulled like an Olympic lifter at the start with a very straight back. Ed Coan would sumo but straighten his legs soon after the bar lifted off the floor. Mike Bridges, I felt, had an inpeccable form with incredible strength.

So what's my point? If you train all muscles properly whatever your style, you will succeed if you can hold onto the bar.

Kid some additional great advice from Marcus for you, "Get out of the books and into the gym!"

kenny Croxdale

I guarantee it will never work if you never try it.